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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/01/you-cannot-use-credit-cards-responsibly.html/comment-page-1#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m another second category person.  I&#039;m not so much shocked about the &quot;liar&quot; comment because it&#039;s just a silly comment, but more shocked by your logic.  Paying your bill online virtually guarantees that your payment will be made on time.    And so many advantages: convenience, safety, rewards, online transaction history.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also consider this: if it&#039;s possible that your payment will get lost in the mail, then it&#039;s better to pay all your bills on your card, and just pay one bill through the mail rather than 10 through the mail.  This will actually reduce your already rare chance of a payment being lost in the mail or online.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Finally, I am one of those people who thinks cash is much easier to spend than credit.  I track all of my electronic transactions in Quicken, so a credit card transaction is definitely felt.  Cash, on the other hand, is accounted for when withdrawn - after that it&#039;s like free money.  Much better for me to stick with the electronic methods.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Track the expenses like a check register and you&#039;ll never spend more than you can pay off that month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m another second category person.  I&#8217;m not so much shocked about the &#8220;liar&#8221; comment because it&#8217;s just a silly comment, but more shocked by your logic.  Paying your bill online virtually guarantees that your payment will be made on time.    And so many advantages: convenience, safety, rewards, online transaction history.</p>
<p>Also consider this: if it&#8217;s possible that your payment will get lost in the mail, then it&#8217;s better to pay all your bills on your card, and just pay one bill through the mail rather than 10 through the mail.  This will actually reduce your already rare chance of a payment being lost in the mail or online.</p>
<p>Finally, I am one of those people who thinks cash is much easier to spend than credit.  I track all of my electronic transactions in Quicken, so a credit card transaction is definitely felt.  Cash, on the other hand, is accounted for when withdrawn &#8211; after that it&#8217;s like free money.  Much better for me to stick with the electronic methods.</p>
<p>Track the expenses like a check register and you&#8217;ll never spend more than you can pay off that month.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lippard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lippard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another second category person here, who hasn&#039;t paid any interest or fees since I paid off my last revolving balance around 1998.  I pay my credit card bills using my bank&#039;s bill payment service, which guarantees on-time delivery of payments or they will cover any incurred costs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I did have one case recently where Discover didn&#039;t apply a cashback reward to the bill appropriately, which resulted in fees, but they admitted their error and reversed the charges.  Clearly, there is some risk here (especially with credit card sleaziness like &quot;universal default,&quot; where a late payment on one card counts as a late payment on all cards with all providers), but it is much tinier than this post suggests, at least for the category of people who are disciplined enough to pay off their balances monthly.  The credit card companies call these people &quot;deadbeats,&quot; and I believe they make up over 40% of credit card holders (though only 25% of student credit card holders).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another second category person here, who hasn&#8217;t paid any interest or fees since I paid off my last revolving balance around 1998.  I pay my credit card bills using my bank&#8217;s bill payment service, which guarantees on-time delivery of payments or they will cover any incurred costs.</p>
<p>I did have one case recently where Discover didn&#8217;t apply a cashback reward to the bill appropriately, which resulted in fees, but they admitted their error and reversed the charges.  Clearly, there is some risk here (especially with credit card sleaziness like &#8220;universal default,&#8221; where a late payment on one card counts as a late payment on all cards with all providers), but it is much tinier than this post suggests, at least for the category of people who are disciplined enough to pay off their balances monthly.  The credit card companies call these people &#8220;deadbeats,&#8221; and I believe they make up over 40% of credit card holders (though only 25% of student credit card holders).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, I guess this post means I am a liar.  &lt;b&gt;Please, keep using your cash. &lt;/b&gt; You get to subsidize my rebates by paying higher prices so that the merchants can recoup the fees they pay to the credit card companies.  Meanwhile, I&#039;ll enjoy my rebates and not worry too much about getting hit with a late fee.  With nearly 20 years in this game, I haven&#039;t paid one yet, but hey, I could be lying about that too.  Thank you for helping to cover the cost of my rebates.  I use at least $1500 per year and rebates and haven&#039;t let one expire yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I guess this post means I am a liar.  <b>Please, keep using your cash. </b> You get to subsidize my rebates by paying higher prices so that the merchants can recoup the fees they pay to the credit card companies.  Meanwhile, I&#8217;ll enjoy my rebates and not worry too much about getting hit with a late fee.  With nearly 20 years in this game, I haven&#8217;t paid one yet, but hey, I could be lying about that too.  Thank you for helping to cover the cost of my rebates.  I use at least $1500 per year and rebates and haven&#8217;t let one expire yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Living Almost Large</title>
		<link>http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/01/you-cannot-use-credit-cards-responsibly.html/comment-page-1#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Living Almost Large</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see the study referring to people who pay off credit cards in full spend more money than a person using cash.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am sorry that you feel the need to critisize others so harshly.  Were you in CC debt?  Is that the cause of the resentment?  That others who might be more responsible than you and financially secure can use CC?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve used CC for 12+ years and had no trouble.  My mom told me it was not free cash.  I used to track it like a checking account, only buying what I had the cash for.  Still do.  Idea is use a check register to follow your balance and all charges.  Then you&#039;ll never go over.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As for late fees, I just pay the bill the day it come in like all bills and I constantly check my balance like a checking account all the time.  I reconcile my spending daily pretty much.  So where&#039;s the possibility for a late fee?  If it doesn&#039;t get there then I call and tell them what happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also if it&#039;s late then my electric, gas, and cable, and all other bills will be late too.  And I&#039;d better let my bank know since I use online billpay.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am sorry that you are so resentful of others.  Actually the site you linked does not show the 18% study.  In fact the study is not found on the internet.  Please post the actual study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see the study referring to people who pay off credit cards in full spend more money than a person using cash.  </p>
<p>I am sorry that you feel the need to critisize others so harshly.  Were you in CC debt?  Is that the cause of the resentment?  That others who might be more responsible than you and financially secure can use CC?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used CC for 12+ years and had no trouble.  My mom told me it was not free cash.  I used to track it like a checking account, only buying what I had the cash for.  Still do.  Idea is use a check register to follow your balance and all charges.  Then you&#8217;ll never go over.  </p>
<p>As for late fees, I just pay the bill the day it come in like all bills and I constantly check my balance like a checking account all the time.  I reconcile my spending daily pretty much.  So where&#8217;s the possibility for a late fee?  If it doesn&#8217;t get there then I call and tell them what happened.</p>
<p>Also if it&#8217;s late then my electric, gas, and cable, and all other bills will be late too.  And I&#8217;d better let my bank know since I use online billpay.  </p>
<p>I am sorry that you are so resentful of others.  Actually the site you linked does not show the 18% study.  In fact the study is not found on the internet.  Please post the actual study.</p>
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		<title>By: ggreenblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggreenblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a post on MSN communities about which studies I was referring to. Specifically, Kiplinger did a study that shows you spend 18% more if you pay with a credit card compared to cash as an average transaction study.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dave Ramsey mentions it here: http://www.daveramsey.com/the_truth_about/credit_card_debt_3478.html.cfm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wasn&#039;t able to find the original article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a post on MSN communities about which studies I was referring to. Specifically, Kiplinger did a study that shows you spend 18% more if you pay with a credit card compared to cash as an average transaction study.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanconsumernews.com/Dave-Ramseys" style="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmouseover="self.status='http://www.americanconsumernews.com/Dave-Ramseys';return true;" onmouseout="self.status=''">Dave Ramsey</a> mentions it here: <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/the_truth_about/credit_card_debt_3478.html.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.daveramsey.com/the_truth_about/credit_card_debt_3478.html.cfm</a></p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to find the original article.</p>
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		<title>By: abfang</title>
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		<dc:creator>abfang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pure crap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have used credit cards for more than 12 years and always paid in full.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One can be a very responsible credit card user, if you don&#039;t maximize cash back/miles/points rewards, you are not doing yourself a favor at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is kind of like you refusing FREE money from the credit card companies when you purchase things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pure crap.</p>
<p>I have used credit cards for more than 12 years and always paid in full.</p>
<p>One can be a very responsible credit card user, if you don&#8217;t maximize cash back/miles/points rewards, you are not doing yourself a favor at all.</p>
<p>It is kind of like you refusing FREE money from the credit card companies when you purchase things.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also in that 2nd group of people. I think it&#039;s absolutely insane for you to say that we&#039;re all liars!! If you believe that everything about a credit card is evil and there is no way to use it responsibly, you are sorely mistaken. Many people in the world are responsible about using credit cards: they only charge as much as they can pay off in a month and they pay attention to due dates so that they don&#039;t have to deal with late fees and finance charges. I&#039;ve got to say, if you prefer carrying cash to credit cards, you have never had your wallet stolen or purchased anything on ebay. I&#039;m sure you never thought of the protection credit cards offer for you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, even those who are less responsible with credit aren&#039;t always &quot;diggers.&quot; My friend, for example, uses her credit card to pay for books, etc. at college. Why? Because her job doesn&#039;t pay enough to finance rent, groceries, and extra bills for school twice a year. Do you recommend that she quit school and stay at a dead-end job for the rest of her life instead of paying off the balance of her credit card over the 4 months of the semester?? I&#039;d say THAT would be financially irresponsible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also in that 2nd group of people. I think it&#8217;s absolutely insane for you to say that we&#8217;re all liars!! If you believe that everything about a credit card is evil and there is no way to use it responsibly, you are sorely mistaken. Many people in the world are responsible about using credit cards: they only charge as much as they can pay off in a month and they pay attention to due dates so that they don&#8217;t have to deal with late fees and finance charges. I&#8217;ve got to say, if you prefer carrying cash to credit cards, you have never had your wallet stolen or purchased anything on ebay. I&#8217;m sure you never thought of the protection credit cards offer for you.</p>
<p>Also, even those who are less responsible with credit aren&#8217;t always &#8220;diggers.&#8221; My friend, for example, uses her credit card to pay for books, etc. at college. Why? Because her job doesn&#8217;t pay enough to finance rent, groceries, and extra bills for school twice a year. Do you recommend that she quit school and stay at a dead-end job for the rest of her life instead of paying off the balance of her credit card over the 4 months of the semester?? I&#8217;d say THAT would be financially irresponsible!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is dead wrong, and poorly reasoned at that. You can indeed use credit cards responsibly, and you can benefit greatly from using them. Just because you don&#039;t consider yourself responsible enough to do so doesn&#039;t mean that everyone is that way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Advantages of CC:&lt;br /&gt;1. Free float: money earns interest in HYS for a longer time. This can be even more so with 0% offers, etc.&lt;br /&gt;2. Rewards: you can get hundreds or thousands of dollars per year back in credit card.&lt;br /&gt;3. Credit score improvement: having cards and using them responsibly helps your score over time. This will save you a lot of money over time if you have mortgages, car loans, or insurance. Having a bad score or no credit history could even get you denied a job or apartment rental.&lt;br /&gt;4. Convenience: can pay one bill per month for almost everything.&lt;br /&gt;5. Protection: credit cards offer better protection than carrying cash or using a debit card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is dead wrong, and poorly reasoned at that. You can indeed use credit cards responsibly, and you can benefit greatly from using them. Just because you don&#8217;t consider yourself responsible enough to do so doesn&#8217;t mean that everyone is that way.</p>
<p>Advantages of CC:<br />1. Free float: money earns interest in HYS for a longer time. This can be even more so with 0% offers, etc.<br />2. Rewards: you can get hundreds or thousands of dollars per year back in credit card.<br />3. Credit score improvement: having cards and using them responsibly helps your score over time. This will save you a lot of money over time if you have mortgages, car loans, or insurance. Having a bad score or no credit history could even get you denied a job or apartment rental.<br />4. Convenience: can pay one bill per month for almost everything.<br />5. Protection: credit cards offer better protection than carrying cash or using a debit card.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see.  I have hundreds of thousands of dollars in available unsecured credit on my credit cards, and currently carry a balance of over $60,000 on them.  I don&#039;t pay a cent in interest and even make a nice sum because of this.  Why?  Because my banks keep offering me 0% interest deals, which I gladly accept and transfer the money into a high interest savings account.  When the 0% offers expire, I withdraw the money and pay off the card, and keep the extra $3k/year that I make from using my credit cards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are you going to try and convince me that I&#039;m not using my credit cards responsibly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see.  I have hundreds of thousands of dollars in available unsecured credit on my credit cards, and currently carry a balance of over $60,000 on them.  I don&#8217;t pay a cent in interest and even make a nice sum because of this.  Why?  Because my banks keep offering me 0% interest deals, which I gladly accept and transfer the money into a high interest savings account.  When the 0% offers expire, I withdraw the money and pay off the card, and keep the extra $3k/year that I make from using my credit cards.</p>
<p>Are you going to try and convince me that I&#8217;m not using my credit cards responsibly?</p>
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		<title>By: mbhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm ... this is the dark side to the power of the internet.  You can become very popular, or very unpopular, really quickly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of my more popular posts on my blog attacked some ideas in a book pretty harshly.  But one thing I didn&#039;t do was attack people, or at least I tried not to.  I think this was the mistake that was made in the post.  It&#039;s probably evident, but I thought I&#039;d point it out anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The thing is I tend to agree that it&#039;s very, very difficult to use credit cards the same way you use cash just because it&#039;s so easy to swipe a credit card.  So, looking past the personal attacks, I&#039;ll be more aware of that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm &#8230; this is the dark side to the power of the internet.  You can become very popular, or very unpopular, really quickly.</p>
<p>One of my more popular posts on my blog attacked some ideas in a book pretty harshly.  But one thing I didn&#8217;t do was attack people, or at least I tried not to.  I think this was the mistake that was made in the post.  It&#8217;s probably evident, but I thought I&#8217;d point it out anyway.</p>
<p>The thing is I tend to agree that it&#8217;s very, very difficult to use credit cards the same way you use cash just because it&#8217;s so easy to swipe a credit card.  So, looking past the personal attacks, I&#8217;ll be more aware of that point.</p>
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