Comments on: How To Deal With Friends Involved in Quixtar and Other MLM Schemes. http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html Helping Smart Shoppers Save Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:32:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Loren Carr http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-6715 Loren Carr Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:37:02 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-6715 100 percent agree agree agree!!!!!!! If only those stuck in the delusional world of Amway would come to their senses! 100 percent agree agree agree!!!!!!! If only those stuck in the delusional world of Amway would come to their senses!

]]> By: Loren Carr http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-6486 Loren Carr Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:37:02 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-6486 100 percent agree agree agree!!!!!!! If only those stuck in the delusional world of Amway would come to their senses! 100 percent agree agree agree!!!!!!! If only those stuck in the delusional world of Amway would come to their senses!

]]> By: Alfred Sometimes http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-5587 Alfred Sometimes Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:43:30 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-5587 So yes, I am a newly signed up IBO... Yeah, I had my doubts and should of just said no, but because my coworker is nice, I figure the only way that I could get her to shut up about it is to just sign up. I know that the $142.48 is something that I will probably never see again. It's alright though, because I have a new mission. It's not so much to hurt my friend as much as it is taking a stand. I plan to sidewall her business building team as much as possible and not order anything or sell anything. I have MAJOR issues with Amway/Quixstar from the standpoint of their sometimes-hidden "anti-gay" agenda. How can you call yourself a "family" business when you don't include all types of family? That makes me sad. And about that $142.48, I may try to dispute that with the credit card. If they ask me the reason why, I'll say that I wasn't satisfied with the product...it's a scam. So yes, I am a newly signed up IBO… Yeah, I had my doubts and should of just said no, but because my coworker is nice, I figure the only way that I could get her to shut up about it is to just sign up.

I know that the $142.48 is something that I will probably never see again. It’s alright though, because I have a new mission. It’s not so much to hurt my friend as much as it is taking a stand. I plan to sidewall her business building team as much as possible and not order anything or sell anything. I have MAJOR issues with Amway/Quixstar from the standpoint of their sometimes-hidden “anti-gay” agenda. How can you call yourself a “family” business when you don’t include all types of family? That makes me sad.

And about that $142.48, I may try to dispute that with the credit card. If they ask me the reason why, I’ll say that I wasn’t satisfied with the product…it’s a scam.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-655 Anonymous Tue, 01 May 2007 04:11:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-655 Hello its Amway. The Owners of Amway Started Quixtar because the govt made them stop making claims of the huge amount of money that they could make. I just went to one of these meetings. They only try and get really young kids that have never heard of Amway. Oh and yes they are a Cult of Crazy people. They said ask your upline before you buy anthing date anyone what is that about? I was in the military and never had to ask my squad leader if I could date a girl. They are just trying to get your money in those cds and books. Why do you think there are so few "diamonds" Because you will never make it. They are all making money on you buying the tapes and going to the conferences. Please if you are in this program search out someone that used to be in Amway and ask them what they thought of it. And believe me the people that started Amway have started Quixtar, because Amway was getting so much bad press from the govt. Just use your head. Hello its Amway. The Owners of Amway Started Quixtar because the govt made them stop making claims of the huge amount of money that they could make. I just went to one of these meetings. They only try and get really young kids that have never heard of Amway. Oh and yes they are a Cult of Crazy people. They said ask your upline before you buy anthing date anyone what is that about? I was in the military and never had to ask my squad leader if I could date a girl. They are just trying to get your money in those cds and books. Why do you think there are so few “diamonds” Because you will never make it. They are all making money on you buying the tapes and going to the conferences. Please if you are in this program search out someone that used to be in Amway and ask them what they thought of it. And believe me the people that started Amway have started Quixtar, because Amway was getting so much bad press from the govt. Just use your head.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-563 Anonymous Wed, 11 Apr 2007 13:42:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-563 Everyone can be successful if they only follow the system? That's BS. I have been listening to a few of the tools that a friend of ours provided. Lots of great nuggets of truth, but very little actual connection between 'the opportunity' and the experts that are cited with such fervor. On one CD, they talk about some big financial expert without mentioning his name, then refer to him like "remember who said this" and "keep in mind who we are talking about". <br/><br/>If you watch the video on earning potential on the facts about quixtar site, there are a few interesting tidbits:<br/><br/>- They refer to income repeatedly. Per the video, gross income DOES NOT include other business expenses that could be 'significant'<br/>- The average active IBO is making like $115/mo in income. Doesn't take much in the way of expenses to mess that up. How does a cell phone, gas money, etc. stack up to that income?<br/>- In 2005, 0.22% of Direct Fulfillment IBO's made $40k or more in income. What percentage of IBO's are "direct fulfillment"? If 66% of all IBO's are ative, and X% are Direct, 0.22% must equal 3 people (note: estimate by poster).<br/>- It takes 10 years, on average to be diamond, where the average earns $75k/year. How many of those years were profitable? How much did they spend to get there.<br/><br/>I believe there are good things people can learn from the experience, but if I look at their own statistics, I'd have 100% certainty of earning $25k/yr if I spent the same time/gas money on a second job... Everyone can be successful if they only follow the system? That’s BS. I have been listening to a few of the tools that a friend of ours provided. Lots of great nuggets of truth, but very little actual connection between ‘the opportunity’ and the experts that are cited with such fervor. On one CD, they talk about some big financial expert without mentioning his name, then refer to him like “remember who said this” and “keep in mind who we are talking about”.

If you watch the video on earning potential on the facts about quixtar site, there are a few interesting tidbits:

- They refer to income repeatedly. Per the video, gross income DOES NOT include other business expenses that could be ’significant’
- The average active IBO is making like $115/mo in income. Doesn’t take much in the way of expenses to mess that up. How does a cell phone, gas money, etc. stack up to that income?
- In 2005, 0.22% of Direct Fulfillment IBO’s made $40k or more in income. What percentage of IBO’s are “direct fulfillment”? If 66% of all IBO’s are ative, and X% are Direct, 0.22% must equal 3 people (note: estimate by poster).
- It takes 10 years, on average to be diamond, where the average earns $75k/year. How many of those years were profitable? How much did they spend to get there.

I believe there are good things people can learn from the experience, but if I look at their own statistics, I’d have 100% certainty of earning $25k/yr if I spent the same time/gas money on a second job…

]]> By: Aspi http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-524 Aspi Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:04:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-524 That's right. As far as I'm concerned Quixtar is simply an opportunity for those who don't have the means to do it otherwise. A low-risk, low-capital way to make it big in life.<br/><br/>Honestly speaking, those who talk ill of Quixtar are just jealous, lazy, and will never really amount to anything in life.<br/><br/>Personally speaking, I've never met anyone who's followed the Network21 system for a couple of years and not made it BIG.<br/><br/>Anyone who achieves anything great must face a lot of rejection (like what you nuts are giving out) and for those of you who are thinking of building this... if your friends stop talking to you after they know that you're doing this, atleast now you know who your true friends are. That’s right. As far as I’m concerned Quixtar is simply an opportunity for those who don’t have the means to do it otherwise. A low-risk, low-capital way to make it big in life.

Honestly speaking, those who talk ill of Quixtar are just jealous, lazy, and will never really amount to anything in life.

Personally speaking, I’ve never met anyone who’s followed the Network21 system for a couple of years and not made it BIG.

Anyone who achieves anything great must face a lot of rejection (like what you nuts are giving out) and for those of you who are thinking of building this… if your friends stop talking to you after they know that you’re doing this, atleast now you know who your true friends are.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-502 Anonymous Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:29:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-502 For all of your information, the business powered by Quixtar has a 100% success rate for ANYONE that follows the system. If you follow the duplicatable system, you CAN'T fail. If you fail, it is because you didn't follow the system and do what was recommended. I went for awhile not having any success myself until I really sat down and tried to figure out why it wouldn't work. I told my mentor (someone who was successful, not just my sponsor) that I would put him to test. I would do everything he told me for 6 months. If it didn't work I was out and it would be his fault. I actually was trying to prove him wrong but did everything he advised just because of the deal. It worked within two weeks and I made more profit than I had ever in the previous 2 years. That is a fact. If you had a bad experience with Quixtar, the problem is not with the Quixtar opportunity (it is just an opportunity not a guarantee). The problem is that you are not teachable. When I bacame teachable, that is when it began working for me. You will fail when you try to recreate the wheel. For all of your information, the business powered by Quixtar has a 100% success rate for ANYONE that follows the system. If you follow the duplicatable system, you CAN’T fail. If you fail, it is because you didn’t follow the system and do what was recommended. I went for awhile not having any success myself until I really sat down and tried to figure out why it wouldn’t work. I told my mentor (someone who was successful, not just my sponsor) that I would put him to test. I would do everything he told me for 6 months. If it didn’t work I was out and it would be his fault. I actually was trying to prove him wrong but did everything he advised just because of the deal. It worked within two weeks and I made more profit than I had ever in the previous 2 years. That is a fact. If you had a bad experience with Quixtar, the problem is not with the Quixtar opportunity (it is just an opportunity not a guarantee). The problem is that you are not teachable. When I bacame teachable, that is when it began working for me. You will fail when you try to recreate the wheel.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-465 Anonymous Fri, 23 Mar 2007 02:16:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-465 WOW. This must be the try, fail, and bitch paradise for you guys. Let me make contacting your friends very simple for you guys because I really feel sorry for you. Here goes...Talk to your friends one time about how you are building a business from home and regardless of whether they check it out or not, leave them alone. Don't EVER bring up your business again unless THEY ask. Yes, the world is a hard place. You have to know that 98% of any independently owned business will fail. That is why there is so much try, fail, bitch. And don't think that the 2% who succeed never fail. The difference is winners try, fail, LEARN and try again. WOW. This must be the try, fail, and bitch paradise for you guys. Let me make contacting your friends very simple for you guys because I really feel sorry for you. Here goes…Talk to your friends one time about how you are building a business from home and regardless of whether they check it out or not, leave them alone. Don’t EVER bring up your business again unless THEY ask. Yes, the world is a hard place. You have to know that 98% of any independently owned business will fail. That is why there is so much try, fail, bitch. And don’t think that the 2% who succeed never fail. The difference is winners try, fail, LEARN and try again.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-434 Anonymous Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:38:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-434 Look for the next best thing and make your move. Make money fast. <br/><a HREF="http://web.ecomplanet.com/WEAL2336/" REL="nofollow">Make money online</a> - http://web.ecomplanet.com/WEAL2336/ Look for the next best thing and make your move. Make money fast.
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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html/comment-page-1#comment-371 Anonymous Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:35:00 +0000 http://www.americanconsumernews.com/2007/02/how-to-deal-with-friends-involved-in-quixtar-and-other-mlm-schemes.html#comment-371 yeah my boyfriend just became involved and im trying to be supportive. i even bought some TP off of his site but told him never again will i pay that much when i can go to walmart and get it for a lot less!!! and his mentor and all want me to pay 100 bucks to go on a convention,but wont even let my bf and i stay in the same hotel room.....man yeah my boyfriend just became involved and im trying to be supportive. i even bought some TP off of his site but told him never again will i pay that much when i can go to walmart and get it for a lot less!!! and his mentor and all want me to pay 100 bucks to go on a convention,but wont even let my bf and i stay in the same hotel room…..man

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